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"We live in an age now where you would never cast an older Doctor," says Russell T Davies in an interview for the show. "Absolutely never. Never over fifty, I wouldn't say over forty-five actually. So we'll always have young Doctors now, because that's what a hero is these days."

He goes from "never" through "always" to the important bit - "these days". These days won't last forever. Perhaps the targer audience will remain hostile to the idea of an older Doctor for years to come. But perhaps it won't - SF's in a slightly different situation from police procedurals and Doctor Who isn't an ensemble show like West Wing or Six Feet Under...

...but even so, Patrick Stewart seemed to work in ST:TNG and Edward Woodward worked just fine in The Equalizer. Never say never, hmm?

Date: 2005-11-16 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jruske.livejournal.com
I don't know why the hero is "younger." It strikes me that Dr. Who is unique in that the flippant and perhaps callous disregard for rules comes across more appealingly with a younger Dr than an older one. In the case of an older Dr such behaviour was initially eccentric and somewhat fun, but nowadays might be taken as a disregard for the opinions of younger people.

Which seems to upset younger people because they don't realise how little value their input usually amounts to.

Date: 2005-11-16 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmh.livejournal.com
Hmm, certainly with ST:TNG Picard's role was complemented by the young and heroic Riker, so I don't think you can make that comparison. I think I could see an older Doctor working if they found another regular character to play the young/male/hero role.

Date: 2005-11-16 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarbi.livejournal.com
But then, in his 50s, Patrick Steward was charging around the Enterprise with rippling muscles in the film First Contact. I don't think you need the younger guy.

Date: 2005-11-17 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com
Jack? But in any case, Doctor Who isn't Star Trek.

Physical confrontations were a regular feature in the Kirk days, a little less so (but still there) in the Next Generation. How many times has the Doctor had to punch someone, though? Even in the new series, we see him running about but he doesn't end up in 'heroic' physical confrontations. That's just not how the show works.

Date: 2005-11-17 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarbi.livejournal.com
May I just say

mmmmmmm...Jack!

Now I have got that out the way, I totally agree - The Doctor has never been an action hero.

Date: 2005-11-18 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dave-exile.livejournal.com
The Doctor has never been an action hero.

Hmm, I'm not totally sure about that - I certainly think Pertwee saw himself a bit that way, what with his "Venusian Aikido", the Whomobile etc.

Personally I think that what made the classic doctors (pre-Davison) work so well was a mixture of eccentricity, and authority/charisma - Davison was just too much of a wimp, especially after a Doctor as dominant as Tom Baker. I think Colin Baker's Doctor was a crude attempt to redress the balance, and he just came across as a bit of a bully. McCoy reintroduced the eccentricity, but IMO failed to regain the authority.

(sorry for thread-crashing, BTW!)

Date: 2005-11-18 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarbi.livejournal.com
Hmm, I'm not totally sure about that - I certainly think Pertwee saw himself a bit that way, what with his "Venusian Aikido", the Whomobile etc.

Good point. I guess I had just blanked out the embarrassing memory of these things.

but...

Date: 2005-11-17 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheridanwilde.livejournal.com
the doctor always has an assistant, who invariably is younger than him (okay, i know there were odd periods where there was no assistant, but mostly)...

Date: 2005-11-17 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juudes.livejournal.com
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Doctor must not be totty. Peter Davison was totty, and that's when I stopped watching it before. Chris Eccleston - not totty; David Tennant - most definitely totty. Age has not a lot to do with it, to be honest: Sean Connery would still have too high a totty-rating to make a good doctor.

Date: 2005-11-17 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarbi.livejournal.com
But then you are excluding many actors who I think would make great Doctors:

Alan Rickman, Bill Nighy, Richard E. Grant....

Date: 2005-11-18 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juudes.livejournal.com
But they aren't totty. Fanciable, maybe (I myself fancied Patrick Troughton, but then I'm a little strange), but not totty.

Cap'n Jack is totty, but this is desirable, nay, obligatory, for the sidekicks. (I don't fancy him though!).

Date: 2005-11-17 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rag-man.livejournal.com
And chances are, RTD won't "always" be producer, either!

Date: 2005-11-17 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimmimmim.livejournal.com
Russell T Davies is a ghastly hack who should never be allowed to write a script.

So, if they'd had the option for, say, Alan Rickman, they'd still have chosen Ratboy to be the new Doctor? Sad. One of the thing I liked about the recent BBC drama Funland was that it had really meaty roles for older people. I like seeing older people have fun. For one thing, I don't want to think I'll spend the last 50 years of my life believing I could only have fun for the first 30...

Date: 2005-11-17 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crashbarrier.livejournal.com
lends credance to my brothers theory that the doctor is getting younger each incarnation...

Date: 2005-11-17 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wood-gnome.livejournal.com
yup, his last incarnation will be in nappies and say bitty bitty a lot.

Date: 2005-11-23 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livingarmchair.livejournal.com
How about getting rid of crap scriptwriters who can't string together a plot without using a huge plot device!

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