mrph: (Mister Oberon)
mrph ([personal profile] mrph) wrote2005-11-09 11:31 am

Politics

Full list of Labour rebels. Special mention to Bob Marshall-Andrews and ex-minister Frank Dobson.

I was sure Blair would - somehow - get that clause through. I'm immensely glad that he didn't.

[identity profile] crashbarrier.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so glad he didn't, it would be a sad day for human rights if it had got passed.

I really need to find out who my MP is. So i can start writing letters.

[identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I would write to mine (Kerry McCarthy, Bristol East), but she votes for everything Tony tells her to, so there's not much point.

[identity profile] mistdog.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm sure the bill will go through, it's just one clause that got defeated.

Bill/clause

[identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooops. My mistake - well spotted. (fixed)

[identity profile] jasontheknight.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, good old reliable Jeremy Corbyn :)
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[personal profile] fluffymark 2005-11-09 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I have increasing confidence my MP, Harry Cohen, even though I didn't vote for him. Yay.

[identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Mine, on the other hand, is still one of Blair's most loyal goons. Bob Ainsworth, deputy chief whip.

[and Reading the Harry Cohen entry, I think I quite like him:
"A former local government accountant, he is on the left of the Labour Party, and voted against military action in Iraq.

He has a strong interest in international human rights and defence issues, and has served on the Commons defence select committee.

Mr Cohen is an occasional rebel against the Labour whip, especially on constitutional and civil liberties issues.
He also wants Jeffery Archer's peerage to be removed. :)]
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[personal profile] lurkingcat 2005-11-09 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Hurrah! Although the current results of the BBC poll on that page are a bit worrying.

[identity profile] inskauldrak.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

Knew the result, but Harry voted against! I know he's normally a rebel on important things anyway, but yes! I worked my arse off during the general election for his campaign and today that proves it was worth it! : )

[identity profile] toripink.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
um, i promise i'm giving Dave your Bubba Ho Tep dvd back. what kind of choccies do you like?

[identity profile] emarkienna.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's sad that even with a "defeat", the length has still doubled. But yes, glad that it didn't end up being 90 days.

[identity profile] grega.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I e-mailed Jim Cunningham about the motion, even though I knew it was pointless. He's one of Tony's goons and very much pro-ID cards too.

[identity profile] jorune.livejournal.com 2005-11-10 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
What interested me about this episode was the effort the whips/spin meisters went to before the vote occurred. I happened to be watching the 'Daily Politics' show with Adam on BBC2, this was by chance not design.

All the pundits and analysts said 'It's too close to call, We don't know', they even called in a political betting guru to illustrate the uncertainty the media faced.

If the govt had been within 1-4 votes of winning then I could have understand the whips approach but to lose so convincingly indicates that the spin has really failed this time or that the rebels were playing their own game of spin and made this loss that bit more surprising.

[identity profile] mister-jack.livejournal.com 2005-11-10 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
How relieved am I?

And my MP didn't vote, which is nice. Not as nice as actually voting against but at least he didn't vote for.