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mrph ([personal profile] mrph) wrote2002-02-22 12:13 am

There's something wrong with human nature...

Or, then again, possibly there isn't. Looks like uk.people.gothic is treading familiar ground with another "crime and punishment" / "juvenile delinquents" thread. All the usual people are adopting all the usual positions. These can be summarised as follows:

Conservatives / right-wing types:
"These kids need discipline, to knock them into shape! Teach them to respect their betters!"

Which seems to be based in a belief that people, without Discipline and Order, are basically bad. The problem is lack of moral fibre. They need a system to keep them honest.

Knee-jerk liberals:
"These kids need education, to show them that there's more to life"

Which seems to be based in a belief that intelligent/educated people are basically law abiding, if only out of enlightened self-interest. The problem is a grim environment and the lack of opportunities, with the depression that breeds.

Hmm. I think I veer strongly towards the second view - but in a context where crime is rife and punishment is unlikely, I'm not sure enlightened self-interest is a reliable saviour.

Option 3

[identity profile] paulw.livejournal.com 2002-02-22 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Round them all up in one place and nuke 'em

Re: Option 3

[identity profile] mr-tom.livejournal.com 2002-02-22 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
An excellent idea! Let's make that place Coventry! :-)

Re: Option 3

[identity profile] paulw.livejournal.com 2002-02-22 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Too late, it seems as though it has already been done.

Time to move onto another target, maybe one of the bigger cities....

[identity profile] belladonna-9.livejournal.com 2002-02-22 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
And the parents of these delightful offspring....????.....

Well, that's the tricky bit...

[identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com 2002-02-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
And I'm all out of suggestions.

Re: Well, that's the tricky bit...

[identity profile] belladonna-9.livejournal.com 2002-02-22 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I have many....not very ethical ones though....:)